All the Gods of Destruction except for Beerus, Champa, and Belmod would scale to "At least 3-A ", with the exception of Sidra who's just 3-A , unless you believe that pre-Tournament of Power True Golden Frieza is Low 2-C . SSB Vegeta and Super Trunks somehow overpowered his energy ball, which would mean he's no more than 2x an SSB, but then Gowasu said something "stronger than that" (referring to Goku's KK x2) would be needed to defeat Zamasu, which would imply Merged Zamasu is over 2x stronger than an SSB. by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:39 am, Post Future Trunks and the young prepubescent Trunks of the main timeline may be different characters, but they're the same exact person, despite some major personality differences. He didn't anyway standed against Majin Buu Good. Shin (the Kaiou Shin (Supreme Kai) of Universe 7) is strong enough to beat Freeza in one hit. by theherodjl » Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:57 pm, Post This puts, by giving Goku low gains, SSG Goku at 5% of Beerus, AT MOST. Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) Now when Goku Black merged with Zamasu, sure the result (Merged Zamasu) must've been even stronger than only Goku Black. While Android 18 currently isn't as strong as a Super Saiyan 2 herself, she's definitely a lot stronger than she was during her debut in Dragon Ball Z. Merged Zamasu is a pussy tbh. Whis demonstrated his ability by fighting and defeating both Goku and Vegeta in the past. … He's definitely the strongest they have ever fought, but only perhaps stronger than GoD level. by Perfectionist-Cell » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:23 am, Post While this can definitely be attributed to his immortality, the fact still remains that it took more firepower to deal with Future Zamasu than it did his weaker counterpart in the present. So your essentially arguing that SSB Vegito is stronger than Fused Zamasu and Beerus. Not even Gogeta impressed Beerus during his fight against Broly. so now he is getting fused, i definetely think, blackmasu is going to be stronger. | Goku surpassed beerus, if not he is just slightly weaker. Question. Anime Fused Zamasu, as well as manga and anime Vegito Blue, should be *absolutely and with no doubt* recognized as stronger than Beerus. Merged Zamasu is a pussy tbh. Even if he's just a tiny bit braver, stronger (his arms are more muscular in the future), or faster, it's clear that this alternate timeline has given him a greater sense of agency that the main timeline's Yajirobe will never develop so long as there are other Z-Fighters to do the dirty work for him. by Cetra » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:35 am, Post So being stronger than a GoD wouldn't necessarily mean Jiren is stronger than Beerus. level 2. rizefall. | Without Goku's body, Zamasu would be nothing. by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:15 pm, Post Still, there's no denying that Future Trunks is definitely stronger than his counterpart in the past. ProLight Style by Ian Bradley. After it was destroyed by Goku Black in Dragon Ball Super, present-day Bulma was left to repair the moss-covered Time Machine that Cell left behind all those years ago. by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:48 am, Post Also, we got some unique moments much different than the anime! Absolutely not. 2-Jiren is above Belmod. Whis stated that Belmod was stronger than Beerus. 1, Second Coming: Only Begotten Son #1 Reveals Sunstar's Origins, King in Black: Immortal Hulk #1 Rings in a Silent Night, 10 Depressing Anime With Surprisingly Happy Endings, 10 Most Overpowered Families In Anime, Ranked, Attack On Titan: 10 Spin-Offs That Should Be Made After The Series Ends, Naruto: The 10 Worst Things The Kohona 11 Have Done To Each Other, Avatar: 10 Plot Twists Fans Never Saw Coming, Naruto: 10 Things Every Fan Should Know About Hashirama Senju, My Hero Academia: 5 Naruto Characters Deku Would Team Up With (& 5 He Wouldn't), Bleach: 5 Characters Who Should Have Been Soul Reapers (& 5 Who Should Have Been Fullbringers), Dragon Ball: The 10 Best "It's Over 9000" Memes, One Piece: 9 Fan Theories That May Be True, One Piece: 10 Best Running Gags In The Series, Ranked. 1 Can't Defeat: Krillin. Absolutely not. His use of Ultra Instinct is just one of his strongest abilities. 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